Curse

Degenero · Jun 19, 2009, 08:14 AM // 08:14

What can replace Cry of Pain?

It is pathetic without R10. :|

OH THE HUMANITY

Gift3d · Jun 19, 2009, 09:07 AM // 09:07

light of deldrimor > radiation field

see what i did there? no problem, champ.

Destro Maniak · Jun 19, 2009, 09:08 AM // 09:08

what can replace cry of pain

NO

the question should be what can replace ether nightmare

because if you ahve max sunspear rank cry of pain causes -5 degen, and ether nighmare causes -6 for the first 6 ranks of allegiance

cry of pain is better than ether nightmare in each and every perspective now imo (of course cryway is dead, but we are talking about A/ME)

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Originally Posted by Gift3d

light of deldrimor > radiation field

see what i did there? no problem, champ.

first of all, radiaion field is better than lod

second, if you dont want to have more degen than max, radiation field is better than ether nightmare as radiation field is -4 degen nearly permanently (20 sec disease) and -6 for 5 seconds

as long as you have sprit of failure in your bar, I dont think anyone should bring ether nightmare with them anymore

beatdownbob · Jun 19, 2009, 10:00 AM // 10:00

Now that CoP has built in Ether Nightmare, I see it as a buff. At least all those pug members have a chance to cause 50 damage on their Arcane'd CoP instead of the usual 2 times zero damage. And you don't need to bring Ether Nightmare.

Which means you could bring an extra snare, because they'll be running from RoJ.

You see nerfs... I see buffs....

Taixen · Jun 19, 2009, 10:23 AM // 10:23

It's only really been nerfed for Team usage, as an individual skill it's not that bad, at R10 anyway, with Shadowforms 33% Damage Reduction and all...

Destro Maniak · Jun 19, 2009, 11:10 AM // 11:10

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Originally Posted by beatdownbob

Now that CoP has built in Ether Nightmare, I see it as a buff. At least all those pug members have a chance to cause 50 damage on their Arcane'd CoP instead of the usual 2 times zero damage. And you don't need to bring Ether Nightmare.

Which means you could bring an extra snare, because they'll be running from RoJ.

You see nerfs... I see buffs....

it is nerfed FOR cryway players

it is buffed for A/Me users

well in any case where the team has more than 1 cry of pain, it is nerfed
for solo purposes it is better this way

Nodakim · Jun 19, 2009, 02:15 PM // 14:15

I never used COP as chamber in UWSC.

Destro Maniak · Jun 19, 2009, 02:34 PM // 14:34

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Originally Posted by Nodakim

I never used COP as chamber in UWSC.

what did you use then?

Nodakim · Jun 19, 2009, 03:41 PM // 15:41

Empathy+Ether Nightmare+Radiation field.I was doing 11 mins on my best.
Now i use COP instead of EN.

kanuks · Jun 19, 2009, 03:56 PM // 15:56

Sweet they buffed the already best solo farming class. There is some genious at A-Net.

Destro Maniak · Jun 19, 2009, 08:11 PM // 20:11

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Originally Posted by Nodakim

Empathy+Ether Nightmare+Radiation field.I was doing 11 mins on my best.
Now i use COP instead of EN.

empathy?

why lol

do you use it to kill keepers?

Imo just group terrorwebs and keepers and kil them all with degen as there are 18 terrorwebs total, and this is a prety big chance of an ecto

Back then · Jun 19, 2009, 08:58 PM // 20:58

COp + ether is waaaay better then ether + radiation, especially for killing grasping who are IMMUNE to disease. Also, the fact that the degen stacks to over 10 makes it better against aataxes who have natural +6 regen.

vgfanatic2 · Jun 21, 2009, 02:51 PM // 14:51

The way I see it, the update to CoP nerfed cryway but didn't affect A/Me farming as much. If u think about it, CoP now does more damage, just not all at once. 5 degen for 10 secs is equal to 100 dmg. The -33% dmg from sf doesn't affect that. So bring spirit of failure, forget about ether nightmare, and now u have a new pve only skill slot.

Destro Maniak · Jun 21, 2009, 03:42 PM // 15:42

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Originally Posted by Back then

COp + ether is waaaay better then ether + radiation, especially for killing grasping who are IMMUNE to disease. Also, the fact that the degen stacks to over 10 makes it better against aataxes who have natural +6 regen.

considering that graspings died nearly two times faster than aatxes, what we focus on shouldnt be graspings